Comments on: Nothing new under the sun… http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/myth/nothing-new-under-the-sun/ The one Source for All my Students Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:40:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: adrienne http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/myth/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1026 adrienne Fri, 19 Feb 2010 06:34:20 +0000 http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/02/nothing-new-under-the-sun/#comment-1026 oh and crazy film about the van eyke projecting on canvas= David Hockney's Secret Knowledge oh and crazy film about the van eyke projecting on canvas= David Hockney’s Secret Knowledge

]]> By: adrienne http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/myth/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1025 adrienne Fri, 19 Feb 2010 05:58:00 +0000 http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/02/nothing-new-under-the-sun/#comment-1025 I was not at all disappointed to see those photos for Rockwell. It actually made me happy, I use source photos all the time. I cannot draw proportionate people without reference. I rob reality or I rob art, mostly both. Also isn't developing a photo like using a projector to paint, except without the long process of applying paint? I was not at all disappointed to see those photos for Rockwell. It actually made me happy, I use source photos all the time. I cannot draw proportionate people without reference. I rob reality or I rob art, mostly both.
Also isn’t developing a photo like using a projector to paint, except without the long process of applying paint?

]]> By: JStallings http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/myth/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1024 JStallings Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:50:17 +0000 http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/02/nothing-new-under-the-sun/#comment-1024 Haha I agree about the fanfic, but I have a copy of Rowling's last book (probably) not written by her (unless it is a really early draft) that is much, much better than the one that was published. IMHO: Should a person intentionally steal another's ideas without credit simply for personal gain? Never. (Campbell's taught us that we vilify the person who uses knowledge for solely personal gain...) Should a person find inspiration in the works of others? Sure; it's unavoidable. I think the problem arises when money (and copyrights) come into play. I would never say "All art should be free and owned by all," but the problem has nothing to do with adapting or adopting another's idea; it has everything to do with making money and "deserving credit." Haha I agree about the fanfic, but I have a copy of Rowling’s last book (probably) not written by her (unless it is a really early draft) that is much, much better than the one that was published.

IMHO: Should a person intentionally steal another’s ideas without credit simply for personal gain? Never. (Campbell’s taught us that we vilify the person who uses knowledge for solely personal gain…)

Should a person find inspiration in the works of others? Sure; it’s unavoidable.

I think the problem arises when money (and copyrights) come into play. I would never say “All art should be free and owned by all,” but the problem has nothing to do with adapting or adopting another’s idea; it has everything to do with making money and “deserving credit.”

]]> By: JStallings http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/myth/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1023 JStallings Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:44:01 +0000 http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/02/nothing-new-under-the-sun/#comment-1023 I'm with you. It seems to come down to two different issues: giving credit and finding inspiration. The line between theft (which implies that the original author "owned" the ideas in the first place) and appropriation is really slim. I'm reading back over Lethem's article now, and realizing that I pulled the surrealist example from him... Definitely read over it when you have the time; the writing truly is brilliant, and he drives the message home at the end with his own bibliography. Here are his last lines: "Don't pirate my editions; do plunder my visions. The name of the game is Give All. You, reader, are welcome to my stories. They were never mine in the first place, but I gave them to you. If you have the inclination to pick them up, take them with my blessing." I’m with you. It seems to come down to two different issues: giving credit and finding inspiration. The line between theft (which implies that the original author “owned” the ideas in the first place) and appropriation is really slim. I’m reading back over Lethem’s article now, and realizing that I pulled the surrealist example from him…

Definitely read over it when you have the time; the writing truly is brilliant, and he drives the message home at the end with his own bibliography. Here are his last lines:

“Don’t pirate my editions; do plunder my visions. The name of the game is Give All. You, reader, are welcome to my stories. They were never mine in the first place, but I gave them to you. If you have the inclination to pick them up, take them with my blessing.”

]]> By: Brit Bear http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/myth/nothing-new-under-the-sun/comment-page-1/#comment-1022 Brit Bear Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:41:10 +0000 http://www.winsomescholar.com/2010/02/nothing-new-under-the-sun/#comment-1022 Ohh and yeah a new perspective on something already there! That makes sense. If it's different enough from the source...otherwise fanfiction might seep out the teabag and into the mug that is actual literature. Ohh and yeah a new perspective on something already there! That makes sense. If it’s different enough from the source…otherwise fanfiction might seep out the teabag and into the mug that is actual literature.

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